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UberSwank
10-11-2007, 01:46 PM
It's Official -- Belmont Bans Smoking In Some Homes

NBC 11 (http://www.nbc11.com/news/14307719/detail.html)
Wednesday, October 10, 2007

The Belmont City Council on Tuesday night adopted a landmark ordinance regulating secondhand smoke in the city.

The ordinance passed on a 3-2 vote and will go into effect in 30 days, according to City Manager Jack Crist.

The ordinance was introduced by the City Council on Sept. 11, and then approved with a few wording changes at its Sept. 25 meeting.


Thought to be the first of its kind in California, the ordinance declares secondhand smoke a public nuisance and extends the city's current smoking ban to include multi-unit, multi-story residences.

Though Belmont and some other California cities already restrict smoking in multi-unit common areas, Belmont is the first city to extend secondhand smoke regulation to the inside of individual apartment units.

Smoking will still be allowed in single-family homes and their yards, and units and yards in apartment buildings, condominiums and townhouses that do not share any common floors or ceilings with other units.

The ban for multi-unit apartment buildings will not take effect for an additional 14 months after the ordinance is passed, so that one-year lease agreements will be unaffected.

Smoking will be permitted only in designated outdoor areas of multi-unit housing.

Additionally, smoking will not be allowed in indoor and outdoor workplaces, or in parks, stadiums, sports fields, trails and outdoor shopping areas.

Smoking on city streets and sidewalks will be permitted under the ordinance, except in the location of city-sponsored events or in close proximity to prohibited areas.

City officials have said that enforcement of the smoking ban will be complaint-driven.

The issue was first brought to the attention of the Belmont City Council last July, when residents at a senior housing complex complained of complications arising from secondhand smoke in their apartments.


Proposal Prompted Death Threats
City leaders were targets of strong opposition -- even death threats -- in what some suspected was a well-orchestrated campaign against the proposal.

NBC11 reporter Noelle Walker said three City Council members have received more e-mails about the proposed ban than any other issue ever. Belmont Mayor Coralin Feierbach told NBC11 her mailbox was filled with the hate-filled e-mails.

Upset citizens are comparing the proposed ban to Nazi rules.

"Following in the footsteps of Adolf Hitler with your no public smoking ordinance …," writes one opponent of the ban.

Many of the letters are littered with expletives.

"If America is lucky, someone will cut all of your *** throats," one letter said.

Another letter threatens, "Your friends will get a 747 loaded with fuel…"

The same letter ends with "Have a nice day."

Feierbach believes the strong opposition is part of an organized effort from the pro-smoking site speakeasyforum.com.

Part of the group's mission, according to their Web site, is to provide a forum for smokers to express concerns about, "… discrimination against smokers in all of the many forms that it takes these days."

Feierbach said she also received e-mails supporting the ban.

il ragno
10-11-2007, 01:54 PM
They hate us for our freedom.

The Jews who rule us, I mean.

Remind me again why the reconquista is a bad idea...?

The Exorcist
10-11-2007, 05:50 PM
The Supreme Court better get on top of this shit and stop those damn Californians from turning their state into a European country

Bordeaux
10-11-2007, 09:58 PM
A disgrace to freedom lovers, smoking or not. One day soon we'll all be under supervision by the state if we keep allowing this shit. But most people are afraid of real freedom, prefering security instead, but getting neither. What the fuck is wrong with the USA?

ZOG
10-11-2007, 10:48 PM
The Supreme Court better get on top of this shit and stop those damn Californians from turning their state into a European country

This why I don't really support federalism per se, too often when the moonbats finally win in some godforsaken area it inspires them in all the others.

SteamshipTime
10-11-2007, 10:54 PM
This why I don't really support federalism per se, too often when the moonbats finally win in some godforsaken area it inspires them in all the others.

I know: we'll get a strong, centralized government to assure all citizens a republican form of government and to protect their rights under the first ten amendments of a federal constitution.

ZOG
10-11-2007, 11:06 PM
I know: we'll get a strong, centralized government to assure all citizens a republican form of government and to protect their rights under the first ten amendments of a federal constitution.

It wouldn't work so bad if they just took the vote away from women and government employees...

Thats why Switzerland has held the line until recently, women couldn't vote there until 1972.

il ragno
10-11-2007, 11:43 PM
Trust me: go Aztlan!

Sure, life will be cheap, and worth less than a comfortable pair of shoes. On the other hand, you can light up right at the bar, and you'll no longer require a full tank of gas and a roadmap to watch a donkey fuck a woman.

ZOG
10-11-2007, 11:47 PM
Trust me: go Aztlan!

Sure, life will be cheap, and worth less than a comfortable pair of shoes. On the other hand, you can light up right at the bar, and you'll no longer require a full tank of gas and a roadmap to watch a donkey fuck a wioman.

The problem with American Aztlan is cops who are Mexico style corrupt with American level equipment, it will be the biggest kleptocracy ever.

You'll also have to live in the mexican areas for all those annoying nuisance laws not to apply (I imagine there are places in Camden New Jersey where nobody is even going to think about trying to enforce any public health regs as it would be very hazardous to their private health), the protection money for that will be steep.

Jaybird
10-12-2007, 01:35 AM
The problem with American Aztlan is cops who are Mexico style corrupt with American level equipment, it will be the biggest kleptocracy ever.
Mexican cops carry M-16s.

You'll also have to live in the mexican areas for all those annoying nuisance laws not to apply (I imagine there are places in Camden New Jersey where nobody is even going to think about trying to enforce any public health regs as it would be very hazardous to their private health), the protection money for that will be steep.
Living in Mexican areas isn't that bad. Sure, it's not nearly as nice and you'll have to deal with roosters crowing at 4am but at least in wetback areas you know where you can and can't go. It can't be anything like living in Gary, Indiana or downtown Mogadishu where you are, as Billy B. says, "Just seconds away from a chimpout."

Jake Featherston
10-12-2007, 05:52 AM
The Supreme Court better get on top of this shit and stop those damn Californians from turning their state into a European country

Even Europeans can smoke in their own damn house.

I used to drive up to Belmont occasionally, to see foreign & indie-type films at The Belmont Arts Cinema. They closed it down shortly after some nigger bought a ticket and robbed some of the patrons.

ZOG
10-12-2007, 09:50 PM
Living in Mexican areas isn't that bad. Sure, it's not nearly as nice and you'll have to deal with roosters crowing at 4am but at least in wetback areas you know where you can and can't go. It can't be anything like living in Gary, Indiana or downtown Mogadishu where you are, as Billy B. says, "Just seconds away from a chimpout."

My experience is mainly with MA, where the blacks tend to be well behaved but the Ricans will slit your throat if they think you looked at em funny.

UberSwank
10-12-2007, 10:08 PM
Even Europeans can smoke in their own damn house.

This is America, it's the government's house.

ZOG
10-12-2007, 10:23 PM
This is America, it's the government's house.

Yep, Fee Simple.

SteamshipTime
10-12-2007, 10:27 PM
Yep, Fee Simple.

I bet it would be a very different world if people held alloidal title to land.

Practically anarcho-capitalist, I dare say.

ZOG
10-12-2007, 10:36 PM
I bet it would be a very different world if people held alloidal title to land.

Practically anarcho-capitalist, I dare say.

Actually thats what feudalism was.

SteamshipTime
10-12-2007, 10:40 PM
Actually thats what feudalism was.

True.

Incidentally, that's annalex's big prophecy: neo-feudalism.

ZOG
10-12-2007, 10:45 PM
True.

Incidentally, that's annalex's big prophecy: neo-feudalism.

Feudalism is what always comes about when government breaks down unless the country is immediately invaded, humans in settled areas don't do real anarchy. Government just gets a lot more local, and ussually much more openly warlike initially.

If the US government violently collapses that probably is what will happen initially.

PseudoCop
10-12-2007, 11:12 PM
"Following in the footsteps of Adolf Hitler with your no public smoking ordinance …," writes one opponent of the ban.

Wrong wing of the political spectrum- is Stalin really that much harder to reference than Hitler?

Johnny Bravo
10-12-2007, 11:26 PM
Even Europeans can smoke in their own damn house.

I used to drive up to Belmont occasionally, to see foreign & indie-type films at The Belmont Arts Cinema. They closed it down shortly after some nigger bought a ticket and robbed some of the patrons.
Yeah, Yankeeland ain't as free as you may think, even compared to Yurop.

Face it, we're pretty much in the same shit, though perhaps some of us are in it just a little deeper.

Jaybird
10-13-2007, 12:45 PM
My experience is mainly with MA, where the blacks tend to be well behaved but the Ricans will slit your throat if they think you looked at em funny.
Oh, I'll agree with you on that. Thank God there aren't many Ricans here. Mexicans are not the same as Ricans. Mexicans work.

Jake Featherston
10-13-2007, 01:42 PM
Wrong wing of the political spectrum- is Stalin really that much harder to reference than Hitler?

Hitler was an anti-smoking fanatic, in fairness.