Christians Against Christ

[The Libertine]

Long article, but worth reading, about the death of what used to be one of the leading protestant denominations.

‘Cross-Dressing Clergy’: These Are the Reasons the Episcopal Church Could Be Near Collapse

The headlines coming out of the Episcopal Church’s annual U.S. convention are stunning — endorsement of cross-dressing clergy, blessing same-sex marriage, the sale of their headquarters since they can’t afford to maintain it.

The American branch of the Church of England, founded when the Vatican balked at permitting King Henry VIII to continue annulling marriages to any wife who failed to bear him sons, is in trouble.

Somehow slipping out of the headlines is a harsh reality that the denomination has been deserted in droves by an angry or ambivalent membership. Six prominent bishops are ready to take their large dioceses out of the American church and align with conservative Anglican groups in Africa and South America.

“An interesting moment came at a press conference on Saturday,” reports convention attendee David Virtue, “when I asked Bonnie Anderson, president of the House of Deputies, if she saw the irony in that the House of Deputies would like to see the Church Center at 815 2nd Avenue, New York, sold (it has a $37.5 million mortgage debt and needs $8.5 million to maintain yearly) while at the same time the national church spent $18 million litigating for properties, many of which will lie fallow at the end of the day.”

This is no longer George Washington’s Episcopal Church – in 1776 the largest denomination in the rebellious British colonies. Membership has dropped so dramatically that today there are 20 times more Baptists than Episcopalians.

U.S. Catholics out-number the Episcopal Church 33-to-1. There are more Jews than Episcopalians. Twice as many Mormons. Even the little African Methodist Episcopal denomination — which broke away after the Civil War — has passed the Episcopalians.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cros...near-collapse/

From deep into the article, the reason I picked that title for the thread:

A few years ago, the annual national Episcopal convention overwhelmingly refused even to consider a resolution affirming that Jesus Christ is Lord.

Upon returning home from that meeting, Bishop Peter H. Beckwith, leader of the Springfield, Illinois, diocese, wrote in a pastoral letter that the Episcopal church was “in meltdown.”

Beckwith has joined bishops in the dioceses of Central Florida, Dallas, Fort Worth, Pittsburgh, California, and South Carolina in asking their church’s top official, the Archbishop of Canterbury in England, for permission to pull out.

Beckwith says the failure of the resolution introduced by conservatives to declare the church’s “unchanging commitment to Jesus Christ as the son of God, the only name by which any person may be saved” was extremely disturbing.

“When a Christian church cannot bring itself to endorse a bedrock Christian theological statement repeatedly found in the New Testament, it is not a serious Christian church,” wrote Allen.

[Draco]

silly schismatics.

[FIPS]

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Someday people will go up to the pulpit to read from Scripture while being sodomized.

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[3LL3BANIT]

Sad..I have met a few Epicostals..they remind me of the Mennonites..they are very passive people..the women do not cut their hair..and always wear dresses or skirts..never pants..that said..they were huge allies in the civil rights movements..and that might of been their downfall..after society became so multicultural..their denomination..because of their ways..has became less attractive to the main stream minded..

[The Libertine]

Originally Posted by FIPS

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Someday people will go up to the pulpit to read from Scripture while being sodomized.

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And the Archbishop Of Canterbury won't give permission to pull out.

[Empress Cheesatine]

Shredding ages old theology isn't going to fill the pews. It'll replace large numbers of faithful with small numbers of freaks, as most freaks hate the Church anyway.

[dr.robotnik]

Religion is based around life and when life become a bleak, consumerist nightmare where money is green from which ever hand it comes from, then religion isn't far behind.

[The Libertine]

Originally Posted by Empress Cheesatine

Shredding ages old theology isn't going to fill the pews. It'll replace large numbers of faithful with small numbers of freaks, as most freaks hate the Church anyway.

Originally Posted by dr.robotnik

Religion is based around life and when life become a bleak, consumerist nightmare where money is green from which ever hand it comes from, then religion isn't far behind.

These people aren't leaving Christianity, they're what's feeding the growing population of the evangelical mega churches.

[APOCALYPTO]

Originally Posted by The Libertine

And the Archbishop Of Canterbury won't give permission to pull out.

I think Rowan is going to retire, do a Tony Blair.

[Goosey]

The elites in the church are like the elites in our society's as a whole. They want supremacy at any cost, any cost.

They must be all trying to be Winston Churchill. A mentally ill drunk.