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Old 12-01-2007, 01:51 AM
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Hilarious scheisse, this.

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The most obvious Nazi Symbol used by Marilyn Manson is the constant use of the colors of the Third Reich, black/white/red as seen in the Nazi Kriegsmarine Flag and the Manson stage setting below:

The black/white/red Nazi Kriegsmarine Flag


Marilyn Manson Displays the Nazi Colors on Stage.


Another Nazi symbol seen in the above image is the Sieg-Rune which is used by the Nazis. The image below has some Nazi symbols, including the Totenkopf (Deathhead Symbol) which was the symbol of the SS, who operated Hitler’s industrial mass murder factories and is a favorite symbol in several forms among Nazis, in general, then as well as now. The Iron cross is not necessarily a Nazi symbol unless used with other Nazi symbols in a Nazi context. In fact that’s true of all of these symbols. The meaning of these symbols depends on the context and how they are used in combination with other symbols.

Common Nazi symbols the SS (Double Sieg Rune) Logo,
the Totenkopf (skull) and Iron Cross



Manson shows-off Totenkopf Tattoo


A Single Sieg Rune was used by the Hitler youth as their logo as in the image below:

Nazi Hilter-Youth displaying their single-Sieg-Rune Logo


Mansons Logo is similar to the single sieg rune as seen here:

Marilyn Manson Logo



It is also similar to this Nazi military badge:

Nazi Badge with Arrow Design


and similar to this emblem of the British Union of Fascists.

Union-of-Fascists Emblem


The drummer boys that Manson uses in his video, “This is the New Shit”, are straight out of a Nazi Propaganda Film by Leni Riefenstahl, “Triumph des Willens” (Triumph of the Will).

Below is the Golden Age of Grotesque logo. Two M’s for Marilyn Manson or is each M actually a large “H” and a small “h” pushed together standing for “Heil Hitler”?



This symbol below is the “Wolfsangel”, a symbol used by the SS in WWII and certain neo-Nazi groups more recently:

Wolfsangel Nazi Symbol


The M’s in the Manson logo look a lot like the Wolfangel symbol. If you shift the left part up and shift and elongate some of the vertical lines, you can make a symbol that matches Manson’s symbol.

Modified Wolfsangel


Manson often shows whites in blackface, which is a regression to the Minstrel Period. During slavery blacks entertained their masters by portraying exagerated stereotypes of blacks as foolish, bumbling idiots. After the slaves were freed, it became more and more difficult to find black people who would entertain whites by portraying exagerated sterotypes of black people. Eventually, whites dressed up like blacks in order to entertain others with the same humiliating racist stereotypes of blacks. Click on this link to learn more about the The Minstrel Tradition, Blackface and Racism, which Marilyn Manson has revived in his act.

Sheet Music depicting Racist Images of Blacks
similar to those used by Marilyn Manson.



Manson has also been known to display burning crosses as on this CD cover:

Manson CD Cover
with Burning Cross



Which reminds you of this kind of scene:

KKKers Burning Crosses


In all three of the videos below, note the frequent use of the black/white/red nazi colors. Many of the symbols used also reflect common Nazi symbols shown above.

The Golden Age of Grotesque


Note in the lyrics the phrase, “It’s a dirty word, Reich.” So, maybe in the next video we should associate the dirty word “shit” with the dirty word “Reich”.

This is the New Shit

The name of the Manson video below is “This is the New Shit”. Nazis are often called “The Brown Shit” (especially in German “Die braune Scheisse”). This is due to the kaki brown color of the storm trooper uniforms that Nazis often wore. So, Manson appears to be referring to the new Nazi Reich in the title with the word “shit”. When Manson yells at the Fans, “Are you ready for the new shit”, that can be taken to mean “are you ready for the new Nazi Reich”. This video seems to have been inspired by Leni Riefenstahl’s Nazi propaganda film, “Triumph of the Will” in combination with a Ku Klux Klan rally. The overall atmosphere reminds one of Hitler’s Nuremberg Nazi Party Rallies (Reichstag). The images of the drummer boys are the same as in Reifenstahl’s propaganda film. The Sieg-Rune emblems are similar to the logo of the Hitler Youth.

This is the New Shit


Below are the lyrics to to the video. The words in the parentheses are interpretation, based on the Nazi-like symbolism used in this video.

“This Is The New Shit”

Everything has been said before (Once you could talk about Nazism.)
There’s nothing left to say anymore (but now you can’t.)
When it’s all the same (as before in nazi times.)
You can ask for it by name (You will be able to openly call for the “Reich” again.)

Babble babble bitch bitch
Rebel rebel party party
Sex sex sex and don’t forget the “violence”
Blah blah blah got your lovey-dovey sad-and-lonely
Stick your STUPID SLOGAN in:
Everybody sing along.
Babble babble bitch bitch
Rebel rebel party party
Sex sex sex and don’t forget the “violence”
Blah blah blah got your lovey-dovey sad-and-lonely
Stick your STUPID SLOGAN in:
Everybody sing,
Are you motherfuckers ready
For the new shit? (for the new Reich)
Stand up and admit, (that you are Nazi)
tomorrow’s never coming. (Don’t put it off any longer.)
This is the new shit. (this is the new Reich)
Stand up and admit. (that you are Nazi)
Do we get it? No. (Do we get the Reich?)
Do we want it? Yeah. (Do we want it?)
This is the new shit, (This is the new Reich.)
Stand up and admit. (that you are Nazis.)

Babble babble bitch bitch
Rebel rebel party party
Sex sex sex and don’t forget the “violence”
Blah blah blah got your lovey-dovey sad-and-lonely
Stick your STUPID SLOGAN in:
Everybody sing along.
Everything has been said before
There’s nothing left to say anymore
When it’s all the same
You can ask for it by name,
Are you motherfuckers ready
For the new shit?
Stand up and admit,
tomorrow’s never coming.
This is the new shit.
Stand up and admit.
Do we get it? No.
Do we want it? Yeah.
This is the new shit,
Stand up and admit.

And now it’s “you know who”
I got the “you know what”
I stick it “you know where”
You know why, you don’t care.
And now it’s “you know who”
I got the “you know what”
I stick it “you know where”
You know why, you don’t care.

Babble babble bitch bitch
Rebel rebel party party
Sex sex sex and don’t forget the “violence”
Blah blah blah got your lovey-dovey sad-and-lonely
Stick your STUPID SLOGAN in:
Everybody sing.

Are you motherfuckers ready
For the new shit?
Stand up and admit,
tomorrow’s never coming.
This is the new shit.
Stand up and admit.
Do we get it? No.
Do we want it? Yeah.
This is the new shit,
Stand up and admit.

So,
LET US ENTERTAIN YOU
LET US ENTERTAIN YOU…
Blah blah blah blah everybody sing along.

Antichrist Superstar

Again note the “arrow” symbol on the start-up screen of this video, it is a variation of the Sieg-Rune used by the Nazis. A single Sieg-Rune was the symbol of the Nazi-youth and two Sieg-Runes was the symbol of the Nazi-SS. The Hitler Youth were seen as a kind of junior SS and Manson seems to be comparing his fans to the Hitler Youth, by using the logo similar to that of the Hitler Youth at his Nuremberg-rally-like concert.

At the beginning of this song the fans though their hands up to give the devil horns salute, like it was a heil Hitler salute, and yell something that sounds a lot like “heil!” as in “Heil Hitler”. They are actually yelling something more like “hell” or “hey”, apparently to maintain deniability, but it sounds like “heil”.

It probably does not need to be pointed out that Hitler and the Nazis were also very haters of the Christian religion, calling Christianity a “Jewish religion”. Hitler thought that Christianity is a Jewish tool to subjugate Europe and the Teutonic Race to Jewish domination. So, the extreme, anti-Christian theme of Anti-Christ Superstar fits very well with the prevalent Nazi symbolism of these videos. Manson is expressing a seemingly deeply-held, chauvanistic hate for Christianity and receives enthusiastic approval from the crowd. This video exceeds the most rabid and hateful, anti-Jewish rants that Hitler or Goebbels ever delivered (only the target for the hate-tirade is here Christians, rather than Jews) and would probably send even the most fanatical Nazis of that time scurrying for the exits in panic.

Antichrist Superstar


Rock and Roll Nigger

It seems strange that Marilyn Manson, a wealthy and privileged white man can refer to himself as a “nigger”. This is an old Patty Smith song and maybe should not be considered as being racist in the Patty Smith context. However, one should consider all of the other racist/Nazi allusions in the Manson context, which may change the perceived meaning of the song. It seems that he is just fascinated with and loves to deliver these racist and fascist symbols and slurs in public and that seems in itself to be the object rather than use of these symbols to express some other more innocuous and socially-redeeming message.

Rock and Roll Nigger
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:56 AM
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Has Carrigan turned into that dork who used to spam message boards about how Metallica is a racist band?
I just thought this was funny. If you don't like it, delete it. You do know how to delete threads, right?
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Marilyn is an attention slut who couldn't get her fix any other way.
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If Marilyn manson were transported through time to Germany at the height of the 3rd Reich's power, in what units could his life expectancy be measured once he stepped out of the time machine?

A. Hours
B. Minutes
C. Seconds

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He might get along with Göring, as long as they avoid politics & stick to their mutual love of drugs, cosmetics and flamboyant fashion.
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Seconds, provided Mengele didn't get ahold of him first.
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And MM real name is?
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